you guys rock !!! keep fighting !!
fight for zero !! zero is very important. it increases the value of money. multiply by ten and you have one extra zero. wonderful isn't it?
so guys, fight and decide who invented zero !!!
I will keep an eye for the ongoing fight.

zero is a spiritual term..it was there in india since 17000 years back.

The earliest date, thus far for the usage of zero (shell glyph) for the Maya has been found to be 36 bce. The shell glyph was already understood and was presumed to be in usage throughout the Maya world, and was most certainly used before this date, as according to Mayanists.

Tomo wrote: #
The nr. zero was invented independently in India and
by the Maya. In India a decimal system was used, like
ours, but they used an empty space for zero up to 3rd
Century BC. This was confusing for an empty space was
also used to separate numbers, and so they invented
the dot for a zero. The first evidence for the use of
the symbol that we now know as zero stems from the 7th
century AD. The Maya invented the number zero for
their calendars in the 3rd century AD.
The number zero reached European civilisation through
the Arabs after 800 AD. The Greek and Roman did not
need the number zero for they did their calculations
on an abacus. The name 'zero' comes from the arabic
'sifr'.
(Data from the book "the calender" by D. E. Duncan).

Dr. Wassenaar

i am vry thankful fr who so ever posted this
as it was very useful famme
thnx a lot
n u rock


signin off
a student

hey people
itz time 2 open ur eyes
check wikipedia
its given dat indians hve discovered 0
n no bdy else
i will not besr any bdy sayin anythng else

http://www.earthmatrix.com/Pitagor3.htm

Stop your madness. Are you here in America? Where is your arryabhatt, in India? You must go to him and ask him yourself where he got this wisdom? Where is this wisdom written before him in such detail? Did he receive a revelation from Brahma, or was it from MAYA? :)

Relax dude!

Please, don't forgt, the Maya are alive and well, thank you very much! Not even the invasion of the entire world can stop them! Show some respect! In other words, don't be like the conquerors, please.

In the world there are only 1 ancient culture present that time,even now HINDU/AARYA. The extream old and only known litrature is VED. Zere is present in RUGVED. Aftr this between 476AD-520AD. 1 Indian scintist "AARYABHATT"(d/b 14-apr-476) (from Bihar State,kusumpur village) Who responsible to shine n add more invension in this culture. The most important invensions of Aryabhatta is-
Pi= 3.1416,
Trignometri,
(A+B)^2= A^2+2ab+B^2,
AREA OF TRIANGLE AND CIRCLE,
Exact time of Eclips,
Etc.
Now please stop this stupid discussion- who invented zero. And forget that Maya culture. Even they cant save themselve. INDIAN culture is 1 n only most oldest culture. Present even now.

@Upasana

Well said !!!
You are true pacifier.

Well said! :)

ok guys dont fight
the world was not created by the indiand but it wasent created by the mayans either
we all form a part of mixed cultures without even realising it
0 was always there we just didnt realise it
so time to stop this fight 4 zero

that'not the thing i needed

Correction to above: Continually being oppressed by the Spanish...

Ah, but Bob, you did not realize that the Maya still thrive in the jungles of Central America. They have not given up the fight of over 500 years continually being oppression by the Spanish originally, then by the various governments where they live. They still practice their ancient knowledge passed down from generation to generation, like the Jews who were once scattered, they were able to retain much knowledge that has been kept secret from most outside eyes, until recently. They have many outside influences to thank, such a many Americanos who have helped with their cause, regarding the recent (last twenty years) uprisings spurred on by land disputes, etc.

lol it doesn't matter. I have always known Indians discovered the zero and Mayans making this discovery is surprising. Either way, the mayans are gone thanks to the invading spanish conquistadors, merged into mexico and central america. India still exists though it was ruled by Great Britain for a period of time. All civilizations are good. We should all unite together but alas, it's just an unreachable dream. Anyways, India invented zero by itself and so did the Mayans.

There are many places you can go to in Mexico and Cetral America to see the hard facts about the Maya and their zero. Thus far, the oldest glyph has been dated at 36 bce. This glyph is a shell. When one considers the only three symbols the Maya used for counting, a shell for zero, a dot for one, and a bar for five, you realize they must have had zero for a lot longer than 36 bce, otherwise their counting system would have been completely lacking with just dots and bars. They also had an abacus as did the Aztecs with their Nepohualtzitzin. One other thing of extreme importance that most people overlook is that "Modern scholars agree that the Mayan glyphs are one of only three writing systems in the ancient world -- the other two being Sumerian cuneiform in ancient Mesopotamia and Chinese -- to be invented independently. All others were probably modeled after or influenced by existing scripts."

Remember, we have not been studying the Maya as long as the other ancient cultures, so give some time, they may really surprise you!

The reason why I said that (true)zero was not in common usage among the populations of India is because Aryabhatta was the first to expound upon its many uses in 5th ac, thus causing the people to truly realize its potential. Before that, who knows? I will study more.

Yes, my brother also thinks there was contact between the two people many years before Columbus. He likes to chant while reciting prayers in sanskrit. He says it helpshim tremendously.

Peace to all!

suchin wrote: #

Aryabhatta is one who first discovered and explained it. But the statement that no Indians grasped the meaning of Zero is entirely wrong.

Correction: Missed a 'no'. I regret the error.

Mario wrote: #
Arybhatta, being one person, proposed this idea to the India(n) people, who did not completely grasp its meaning, as a whole society, until much later. Absolutely, he was a great genius!

Aryabhatta is one who first discovered and explained it. But the statement that Indian grasped the meaning of Zero is entirely wrong. If you care to read Sanskrit books, you know that the word 'Shoonya' = Zero is used umpteen times, thats even before Aryabhatta.

Is this thread in anyway trying to make Mayans look much ancient and brilliant than Indians? Or is there facts apart from movies and written text books where I can refer to history?

Maybe Mayans too discovered Zero. But Indians and Mayans were the races who never thought they should publicise their works all over the world. They were too humble to do it, owing everything to God.

So be it. I can still see there had been lot of similiarities between Mayans and Indians of that time. Possibly many of those Mayans married Indians and vice-versa. Maybe they were moving between the lands.... you never know.

And hence, we can give the benefit of doubt to all who think Mayans too discovered Zero.

Jordan wrote: #
I DO NOT GET THIS!!!!!!!!! HOW COULD YOU MULTIPLY WITH LINES AND ALL THAT JUNK!?!?!??! You do know there is an EASIER method of multiplying that you probable learned in 3rd or 2nd grade RIGHT?!!?!?

guess it's a bit too much for your brain to handle eh? ._.
if humans stick to the same solutions forever.. there will be no advancing? whatever, i never liked human race, worst thing that ever happened to earth i bet :/

the comments here just shows the big ego of humans, instead of whining.. go do something new? ._.

"Every day, the world begins and ends, what will you do with the great opportunity of starting new? "

I love this SPIRIT Mario!!!

Every day, the world begins and ends, what will you do with the great opportunity of starting new?

Apparently from the many comments i have read about the Mayan calender and the world ending, really shows how foolish or ignorant people are. the research shows that the calender is the most accurate one ever created, but also if you read more on how the calender works you are able to see that the calender works in circles and is measured i circles thus making it a cycle. meaning that the world will not end but that the calender resets itself.just to show an example in the year 2009 the world did not blow up or end just to bring 2010 a new. think before you speak