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Printers Spy On You

Printer manufacturers print invisible yellow dots on consumer's prints that check to see if a person is printing counterfeit money. If you call your printer manufacturer and ask them to "please stop spying on you", they will send secret services to your address to find out why you care about your privacy. Upset? You should be. The more people who call their printer's manufacturers and make this request, the more likely secret services will refuse to investigate.


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lady
this is alarming. i never thought they could do that and spy on us
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lady at 04:54AM, Dec 16th 2007.
k-la
the yellow dots are the serial number of the machine, this security feature is most commonly found on high end digital presses to combat counterfeiting. the dots are printed across the sheet and are hardly "invisible" and can be seen with a good eye or under a loupe.

not sure if it is possible to disable that feature but you should print counterfeit money on an offset press anyhow, better quality...!
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k-la at 12:54PM, Jan 21st 2008.
Zanskar
But surely if your computer is not connected to the internet then it is useless?
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Zanskar at 10:36PM, Apr 24th 2008.
jason
that would explain why the yellow ink is usually the first to go when printing a lot.
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jason at 10:41AM, Jun 15th 2008.
ryan
There is no possible way it could be to "spy" on you and what you print. it is a feature on high quality printers. If you had registered the product the yellow dots could be used as a way to trace that product to you. They are a form of a serial number for your specific printer. It is in no way connected to anything other than it puts dots on all your print outs.
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ryan at 11:28AM, Jul 11th 2008.
Marwin
As a designer and a layman in the industry i can tell you all to settle this debate that you don't know what your talking about for a few reasons.
1) if you print counterfeit money, regardless of the denomination or country of origin it will never ever look anything like real money if you print it on a deskjet or even a high end digital machine (which are the only machines that drop a yellow dot on the stock).
2) if you want to print counterfiet you have to produce the cash on a higher than 200lpi offset press, with about 8 colour banks (currency is not printed with CMYK or four colour inks)- these machines are worth in excess of 4million, and require a fully trained engineer or industry trained proffesional to operate.
3) to buy in the paper to print currency onto (which is usually watermarked, microwoven, magnetically embossed and coded by the mint prior to print) you would have to be high up or closely related to the mint. getting your hands on the paper would be next to impossible.
4) all currency has uv ink. hold a note under a uv light and whatch it glow, you cant do this on a digital machine, let alone a regular offset press.
5) If you were able to get all of the above mentioned things together, and you were able to print them, you still have to microencode the individual notes, and that database is held under top security.

so to itterate. The yellow dot being put down by your digital machine means really nothing. and if someone asked me to "stop spying on me" i would not have a clue what they are talking about and i definately be wasting my time calling the cops. I think the author of this article is a little paranoid about nothing.
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Marwin at 05:47PM, Jul 17th 2008.
Tomo
Interesting comment. Bravo!
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Tomo at 04:13AM, Jul 19th 2008.
gary
Marwin you are an idiot. You wouldn't waste your time calling the cops, you'd rather waste it writing your comment. You must not be doing a very good job of designing your printers if they are accidentally putting yellow dots on everyones paper. I say accidentally because you yourself said they mean nothing.Secondly, counterfeit money is fake, and the steps that you bothered to explain to us happen to be the steps to making real money. the main thing about counterfeit is that it only looks like it, counterfeit money is not microencoded. all counterfeiters try doing is making cash that will look convincible enough to be accepted by a local cashier at a gas station or grocery store
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gary at 10:36PM, Jul 21st 2008.
tim
I haven't heard of printers doing this, but I have a friend who sells photocopiers - apparently some can detect if you try to copy money and disable themselves...
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tim at 09:16PM, Aug 9th 2008.
steves
just shurup gary
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steves at 11:14AM, Nov 28th 2008.
Luke
Similar to the statement on photcopiers but Adobe Photoshop knows if you are trying to scan a banknote directly into it, and stops you!

But there is a way around it..
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Luke at 06:57AM, Dec 1st 2008.
adam
gary ur right!!! And marwin ur a bit slow i wud say. And if ur so smart and busy wy are u waisting ur time on these websites and steve shurup is spelled shudup. RETARD!!!
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adam at 10:56AM, Dec 23rd 2008.
Joeseph
Shut Up adam

If you know better than everybody else than why are you on this site too criticizing everybody else's comments if you can't be mature about it than leave this site and don't return
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Joeseph at 08:18PM, Jan 3rd 2009.
Throckmorton
I didn't print that anonymous note I didn't give to that Bank Teller. You can check for yourself if you have a way to do it, hehehe.

Ah shucks. You can really tell that i actually printed it.
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Throckmorton at 10:59PM, Jan 31st 2009.
The dude
The yellow dots are obviously placed to track the original printer that made the fake note.
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The dude at 06:57PM, May 6th 2009.
Otto
I am a little confused. Whether this is fact or not, why would you care so much about the government monitoring illegal printing if you're not illegally printing?

Sure, you don't want them to 'see' what you're doing nonetheless, but why? This is their job and they're probably sick of it by now so it's not like they're going to personally glamour over your boring business data or family photos. I absolutely understand how it's a violation of your privacy and I won't be able to convince you otherwise, but would you really mind that much?
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Otto at 07:39AM, Sep 2nd 2009.
Interesting Facts
This fact could be outdated.
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Interesting Facts at 09:17AM, Sep 2nd 2009.
Chris
Whether you get into the specifics or not how can anyone make the jump of saying that printing invisible yellow dots on paper is the equivalent of spying... In no way is that an infringement of privacy and it would only cause issue to someone attempting to counterfeit money - so, while the fact itself is interesting, the interpretation of what it means is off.

P.S. being paranoid about stuff like that isn't worth your time, and is unhealthy, I can assure you. You can only do stuff about your life , so do what you can to make it better, and let God/Politicians/who or whatever take care of the rest. Thinking I was being "lied" to by everyone and everything nearly drove me crazy when in reality the best thing I could have ever done was what was best and right.
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Chris at 04:48AM, Oct 24th 2009.

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