Good point Afghan Banan. Since around 3100 bce things have been developing all over, like writing, mathematics, calendars, astronomy, pyramids, etc.

I'm sure India is a great country, just like the rest of our world. They were colonized, and Ghandi helped make things right, and so did the Eastern European, Mother Theresa.

God Bless.

There must be a name for something that exists, but is yet to be discovered. As I travel the world I am always looking at similarities. I mentioned it previously in another posting. As an amateur culinary anthropologist, how is it that a type of tortilla exists everywhere on this planet? Picante sauce? Jelly? beds? coat hangers?
These items were in place at all locations way before Marco Polo or any of the spice route travellers pollinated the earth with "new ideas".
I am proposing that zero was always there. That it would have been developed as each civilization developed.

hey i also stay in india and i known this indians always think that they are the most intelligent most powerful but in reality they are the best fools in the whole world unfortunately i was born and brought up in india by the way they dont know that they were been ruled by europeans but they have still proud on their waste country ,good for nothing i would like to ask kiran how many famous people are born in india.

Oh well, the debate just got stupid, including the misspelling of words by the great Indian debater, kiran. The world I suppose according to kiran and others was probably created by India. I am not who I think I am because I am not Indian, so I am a complete moron, since I am part Maya. Without the Indians, according to kiran, the Maya are nothing. Wow, and they created the first rocket, coming from a supposedly spiritual place, for the use in war. They created everything. We must all be completely stupid compared with them. They are the best at everything, is that right Kiran; except in making their Bollywood movies, of course. Can I wish everyone Peace, or would that be considered stealing from India as well? Who knows, peace as a concept probably came form them too??? Can I touch you to see if you are real? May Maya heal your thirst for the illusion of who is best!

the above comment was posted my me in that i forgot to give the name of king who invented the rocket for the first time which was copied by britishers................
HE IS "TIPPU SULTHAN"

from where did these mayans come from?
ZERO was invented in India and many of the greatest mathematicians like Issac newton..... accepted that and these mayans cant digest it.......
i think mayans don't know that even their language was also derive from indian language SANSKRIT. INDIA is the greatest country who thought the world how to count...
These mayans don't know that the first rocket was invented by INDIAN king and britishers robbed, steeled that technology to their country and with reverse engineering they came to know the technology in the rocket and build their own.......
"THE LEGEND WHO INVENTED ZERO IS ARYABHATTA"
all these mayans and mexican history book are trash.......... and please don't ever expose others achievements as yours

Be not confused, nor rused. Great calendars equal great mathematics, which equal great observations.

really confusing

This website must be from an Indian from India. Boy, one even has to reaffirm the name Indian now as to which place of origin, east or west. It's like playing Cowboys and New Delhians!

Anyway, this argument is a waste of time, amounting to a collapse of the uses of zero in real terms and not just in the concept of numbers. We see zero everywhere; yet are blinded by everything standing here and there. Great Spirit with heart is what we need to lead, not some reincarnate irate. If you all want bragging rights, go ahead, but just remember, ego is illusion!

It is quite coincidental though that the Maya calendar, which some of you claim is stupid, is in fact the most accurate calendar from the ancient world. It incidentally began in 3113 bce. Zero was definitely part of the dynamics of its origins. Peace, love and bliss!

Indians have always been talented..indians have invented zero(in bramhagupta) and not mayans, they are so stupid ...now they are saying that mayan calender will finish in 21st dec 2012 so world will finish...its just a calender guys there will be new one ...its so stupid JAI HO INDIANS

In answering the question about the origin of numbers 1-9 &(10). This must be related to the human body and the number of fingers on each hand. If we had 12 fingers, a system would have been invented that made perfect sense. With fingers and food being universal, it is easy to see development happening at the same time in different parts of the world.
Nobody is fighting for bragging rights to the tortilla,dal or flan. It is mutually agreed that they just happened to be made out of what materials were available in the region. I agree with the statement that zero was not invented, but discovered. It was always there.

sof wrote: #
This information is false, zero was invented by the mayans. You can search for it in a mexican history book.

No, you're both right. It is not certain whether the zero originated in Mexico or in India, but it must have been around the same time.

India is the real inventer of zero. so east or west India is best

this is real crap u ppl dnt knw abt India its the land of virtue......do u all knw tht in NASA there is 33% INdians? why? just thinkfirst thn comment like this....Zero is of course invented in India and the person name is Aryabhatt....

hi,
it woks as long as you have not got a zero in the question when you have a zero in it, it does not work :( xx

Hi all
Please avoid using 'Invent zero'
it was there all the time.
so I request to change that to 'Discovery'

Thanks

The zero was invented India, by "Aryabhata". You can check History books to rectify your doubts.

The Maya were the very first to use the zero. There calendar began in 3113bce, using zero as their launching point, unlike our calendar starting at one. The calendar began when humanity had developed writing from symbols, thus the word of God, creating.

In India, Maya means illusion and all there is in the physical world, thus the Maya were the first to reaLIZE MANY THINGS ABOUT SCIENCE. Their calendar was more accurate than any other civilization, including India's. Don't be upset, these are only the facts.

This sounds like more of a nationalistic debate than a scientific one. Both parties claim with certainty that their side invented it. "Check your history books" is a very weak argument. The fact is there's no way any of you know. I always heard it was the Mayans (Through reading it) then I heard it was the Indians (on the History channel)I imagine many of you got your information from similiar sources. I for one can't possibly claim to know.

why don't shopkeepers understand the value of zero? everything is so costly and downmarket!

   i can't believe so many people r reading me on internet!!!

but who invented numbers one to nine???

Thats neat!

woooooooooooow. Awesome.
I am Mayan and damn well proud!
Oh n i agree w Afghanistan Bananaman :D

Zero could have developed in two places at the same time. Look around the world at foods. Tortillas exist everywhere under all sorts of different names. Jelly rolls too. The Russians claim to have invested the telephone at the same time as Alexander Bell, and someone else calims to have flown in an airplane before Orville and Wilbur Wright. Human developement happens. It is harder to explain in modern times because we are so high tech.