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Light, Heat and God

Darkness is nothing but a absence of light. You can measure intensity of the light to infinity but can you do the same for darkness? Cold is nothing but absence of heat. Heat can be measured to infinity but cold maintains a steady value at a certain degree. Absolute zero (-460 F) is the total absence of heat; and all matter becomes inert and incapable of reaction at that temperature. It was proclaimed that Albert Einstein said: "Evil does not exist, or at least it does not exist unto itself. Evil is simply the absence of God. It is just like darkness and cold, a word that man has created to describe the absence of God. God did not create evil. Evil is the result of what happens when man does not have God's love present in his heart. It's like the cold that comes when there is no heat, or the darkness that comes when there is no light." There is no proof that Einstein said this and there is no proof that he didn't. However, based on constructive thinking there is no reason to suppose that Einstein was part of this "fictive" story.



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peopleofthebook
wake up people you're lives are not meaningless, you did'nt come from nothing you have a creator and there is an afterlife.
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peopleofthebook at 03:58PM, Aug 20th 2010.
Taumata­whakatangihanga­ko
Vishwajeet Gain wrote: #
I'm an Atheist.
LOL your name is vishwajeet gain, i think thats hindu? anywayz if u are atheist - burn in hell

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Taumata­whakatangihanga­ko at 12:12PM, Aug 20th 2010.
Vishwajeet Gain
I'm an Atheist.
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Vishwajeet Gain at 07:17AM, Jul 22nd 2010.
Sagar Jagdale
'Those who believe doesn't require any proof and those who don't no proof is possible'.
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Sagar Jagdale at 02:21AM, May 3rd 2010.
Kelster
EVERYONE READ "CONVERSATIONS WITH GOD" Neale Donald Walshe
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Kelster at 04:38AM, Apr 2nd 2010.
Randall
I really enjoyed reading everyone's posts and listening to each one's thoughts on these matters. :) I'm a christian and i'm glad that so many of my brothers and sisters in Christ have stepped up and defended their faith to be able to share it with the others here. Thank GOD for your hearts and i pray that you'll be filled with the knowledge of His will.

To Jeff: you have done a great job, brother. You have been gentle and kind yet straight-forward: your words have been 'seasoned with salt' if you will and i really appreciate it. We should always be like that.

To "faith and believe": you've presented extremely interesting data that i have never heard of I'll have to look into this more... thanks!

PS-i'm pretty sure Einstein never said the quote in the above 'fact' but it does have a good point. It's kind of like the "There's no such thing as barbers" argument. I also think i agree with Koray; i'm beginning to find that a lot of the 'facts' have a subjective element to them. I don't know about you but i came here to hear facts not 'facts'. Anyway, edifying discussion, people. GOD bless each of you in your journey. Peace.
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Randall at 05:26AM, Mar 13th 2010.
Christian
Actually there is something called the Book of Enoch. Enoch is referred in the bible a few times as the Great Grandfather of Noah (Genesis 5:1-18). Basically, Enoch walked with God and wrote a book about it. These documents are really old yet we fail to see this as proof of a greater beings out there. Possibly Aliens in the old biblical time, which were referred to as angels just like how the Aztec's referred to Cortes as a God.
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Christian at 04:45PM, Feb 12th 2010.
Faith and Believe
In case you are wondering the 'two trees' for the word 'covet/desire' is refer to the tree of life and the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Over these two named trees, the Lord God placed two prohibitions: the first was before the Fall:

"And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:

But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die" (Gen 2:16,17)

the 2nd prohibition was imposed after the Fall and was directed against the second tree, the tree of life.

"And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

Therefore the Lord God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken

So He drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life" (Gen 3:22-24)

Against the two trees the Lord pronounced a prohibition. So here comes the Chinese word "prohibition" consists of "two trees + God pronounced" = "prohibition"
(extracted from The incredible Chinese Script by S H Tow)
Coincident? Why believe in so many coincidences where you can just believe in one thing that everything is created by God?
Human, animals, water, everything on earth even the language that we r using is created by Him and gifted by Him?

I simply just don't believe we are existed by chance.
I hope some of you will find it interesting and believe what I've written here. Amen.

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Faith and Believe at 11:20PM, Jan 1st 2010.
Faith and Believe
For me, I need no more the evidence of God, by feeling the presence of God in my heart and in my life is the most essential evidence that i can get from despite having the evidence of Chinese scriptures. How about you? Do you need more evidence? Just believe Him by faith and believe in all thine heart, all thine soul and all thine mind. Here, I challenge you to make a difference in your life by receiving Jesus as personal saviour. "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life" (John 3:16)
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Faith and Believe at 02:54PM, Jan 1st 2010.
Faith and Believe
Hi all.. I'm a Chinese and also a Christian... Since some of you doubt bout the existence and evidence of God, I would like to share some interesting facts with you all. Well, I've learned and studied Chinese words since I was young and here let me 1st introduce the incredible Chinese Script. The Chinese Script is the only modern written language which has retained its ancient pictographic and ideographic form, through some 4,500 years.Most of the characters contain phonetic parts, and are composites of phonetic components and semantic radical that indicates meaning.Well, what I want to tell you here is there is great discovery of characters containing elements of Bible truths relating to 'Early events' of the genesis record- Creation, The Garden of Eden, The Temptation, The Fall and The Flood. Bible scholars tell us that the Bible was written over a period of some 1,500 years and was completed only about 100AD. We also recall the words of the Apostle Paul that while God 'Who in times past suffered all nations to walk in their own ways,...
Nevertheless he left not Himself without witness, in that He did good...(Acts14:16,17)
Indeed, our God left not Himself without witness in the days following the Flood and the Babel fiasco, but He did good by implanting in hearts and minds of certain of Noah's children memories of the Creation, the Garden of Eden, the Temptation and Fall, the Flood, and God's plan for salvation.
(extracted from The Incredible Chinese Script by S H Tow.)
He indeed not left Himself without witness for the Chinese nation by adding them the gift of the unique Chinese scriptures that carrying essential meaning and story for remembrance. Well, another fact is one in five of mankind is Chinese, with a population of 1.3 billion.( On behalf of all the Chinese, here I would like to thank God for the gift of the Chinese scriptures that we've learned)
Example of Chinese character that relates with the Creation of God is the Chinese word for 'create'
"And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness... And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul"(Gen 1:26; 2:7)The word 'create' in Chinese consists of some simple words or ideogram which is the word of 'dust + mouth + life' also = ' speak + move' that = create.
When God made Adam, He moulded him with the dust of the ground, breathe into his nostrils the breathe of life; and Adam became a living soul, a fully formed adult, able to talk and walk. This is the story of the word 'create'.
There is so many Chinese words that can relate to the story of 'early events' and the more significant ones would be the Chinese word for 'devil', 'tempter', 'desire/covet', 'naked' that tells the story of the Temptation and Fall of Adam and Eve.
Another interesting word that i want to share is the word for 'covet/desire'.
"And... the woman saw that tree was good for food, and... pleasant to the eyes, and... to be desired to make one wise..." (Gen 3:6)
Chinese made no mistake: it was the woman, not the man who lusted and desired the fruit. hence the word for"covet/desire" is made out of ' two trees + woman'.
coincidence? how about this? the word for 'naked' is made out of "body + fruit", is the 'fruit' which Adam and Eve ate that made their 'body' naked! There is no reason to believe that the story of the Creation and the Fall in the bible is not true based on the Chinese scriptures. ( I also couldn't find any reason how the Chinese could create the word for 'naked' with using the word 'fruit' if it isn't based on the story of the Bible.)
Coincidence again? (I don't think so because there are too many words that related to the Bible story.)
Want more? How bout the word of 'righteousness' that is made out of 'lamb' + 'me'. Amazing, how this gospel truth came to be written into the Chinese script over two thousands before the Lamb of God won for us our righteousness at Calvary.
Secondly, the message conveyed from Adam to Noah's Chinese children was well received: God's remedy for sin and prescription for righteousness was a Lamb,not any other animal. ( see Ex 12; Jn 1:29; Rev 5:12) Coincidence? Amazing isn't it? ( I really can't figure out why they use word 'lamb' for the word for 'righteous' as there are so many other animals to choose from but why use lamb if it isn't for the word of God?)
God has spoken: His revealed word is the Bible.
"All scripture is given by the inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness"( 2 Tim 3:16) And while heaven and earth shall pass away, "the word of the Lord endureth for ever"( 1 Peter 1:25)

For those who is unbelief, It's time to wake up, receive the truth that we are all sinner and the truth of the bible and accept Jesus as our personal savior. Global disaster is on the way. The hour is late.
"For ye a little while, and He that shall come will come, and will not tarry"(Heb 10:37)
"Behold, now is acceptable time; behold, now is the day of salvation" (2 Cor 6:2)
What is Jesus to you? Be not as a thief whose faithless railing earned him God's condemnation. But rather consider the other's response of faith. Turn like him to the Man on the Cross and hear Him say: " Today shalt thou be with me in paradise." Amen.

Those which is in Italian word are extracted from 'The Incredible Chinese Script' written by S H Tow.For those who interested to know more bout the words, you are most welcomed to read it.
(In case you are wondering, all the words are based on the ancient Chinese scriptures, not the modern ones!) Well, hope to see you in Heaven!
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Faith and Believe at 02:26PM, Jan 1st 2010.
drew
I believe the text has an error. It says that heat can be measured to infinity. When ridiculously high temperatures occur atoms begin to break apart to electrons, neutrons, etc. and those break down to quarks etc. and then those parts break down and so forth until the parts can no longer be broken down. Eventually the system will get to a point where heat can no longer be added (whether there is a certain limit in pressure from the broken down parts, or everything has turned to pure energy). Therefore, to say heat can keep being added no matter the circumstances is incorrect.
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drew at 01:05AM, Oct 26th 2009.
Jon
You must have faith to believe in God. You can choice to believe in God or you can choice not to believe in God and that is Free Will. He gave us this choice, but the fact is that you have been informed of Him and now must make a choice. You may have to die with your choice and once you stand before God it will be too late to renege on your decision. I know God exist because he lives in me. I feel His presents at this very moment as I share this message with you. As long as you continue to breathe, you have the option of exercising your ability to believe and have faith. Try asking God to come into your life and live within you. You will be surprised how He will bless your every day. God Bless You.
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Jon at 01:58AM, Oct 22nd 2009.
Valen
Actually to be "frank", Einstein never actually believed in this God person i have no idea where the author of this got this information that Einstein ever did.

I personally think that every person here that is trying defend a "higher being" then themselves that doesnt even exist is fighting is going to get NO WHERE! I mean for starters you are in the wrong part of this website i mean come on your in the sciece part of it. Infact i think someone should start a new thread stating all the ways that God or Allah(lol dont forget the muslims :P) exists.

Wake up to the society of today. Most people have moved on from religion and have started to accept the fact that God exists.
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Valen at 07:41AM, Oct 2nd 2009.
Emmanuel
A fool says in his heart " There is no God"
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Emmanuel at 01:34PM, Sep 17th 2009.
joseph
GOD exists and I don't know why the people who don't beleive in Him are so sure he doesnt exist. I believe in God and when people make a reasonable explanation on what created the Big Bang the we will have something to argue.God bless(especially the unfaithfull)
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joseph at 12:10AM, Aug 1st 2009.
ran10
I believe in God
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ran10 at 04:34AM, Jul 8th 2009.
Adam Thurley
Evolution is the greatest happening, in my mind, when it comes to determining the existence or lack of God. However, it wouldn't be God-like for God to force us to believe in the existence of Him. God would want us to live and believe what we believe, that is why we are what we are; a diverse group of people with different beliefs and that is okay. There is nothing saying that we have to believe what everyone else does. Atheist, fine. Jewish, fine. Christian, fine. Muslim, fine. Hindu, fine. Buddhist, fine. What I can't stand is people trying to tell other people what they should believe. People saying, "You have to do this, otherwise, you'll go to hell." No. You can do many other things that will outweigh than not doing one minute thing. So, people out there, believe what you want to believe in, and remember that there is no one who has the right to stop you.
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Adam Thurley at 06:24PM, May 15th 2009.
Interesting Facts
To quote the actual fact:

"However, based on constructive thinking there is no reason to suppose that Einstein was part of this "fictive" story."

Please read everything first before making statements. We actually said that Einstein was never part of this "absence of God" theory.
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Interesting Facts at 02:58PM, May 10th 2009.
Koray
It makes perfect sense when it is said "Evil is the absence of good". And it might be plausible that Einstein said that.
I don't understand why and where this god business has to come in. Knowing other quotes from Einstein I highly doubt he put god into that equation.
Either way; it is far from being a fact. Makes me doubt other facts listed on this website.
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Koray at 04:55AM, May 10th 2009.
goggly
^^i don't get the whole let's wait and see what happens. don't you realize that WHEN you find out God is real when you die, it will be too late to start believing. WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!!
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goggly at 05:04PM, Apr 24th 2009.
Crystal
Liz,

Comparing god to your mother is highly inaccurate. A mother is tangible and you KNOW her for what she is. She is real, in your face, twist your life, fix your world, reliably there and able to be seen, smelled, tasted, and EXPERIENCED by millions of people all over the world and it is quite hard to debate if there really is a "MOM" out there. GOD on the other hand is claimed to be experienced by individuals with no REAL evidence to prove the experience or exsistence, however, this doesn't mean there is no GOD. But there are people in the world who have not been graced with an experience and choose to disbelieve or like myself, choose to wait and see what happens.

I whole heartedly agree with you about faith being all believers have. That is how GOD does exsists for the time being, on faith alone. Faith creates jihads and such, it is very powerful and enticing. The good thing about GOD is that it is positive for the most part and when faith is truly for the good of others it is a wonderful thing and does create the life that Jeff describes for himself. But for now, that's all that is fact about GOD: Faith. But even so, every thing has a hiccup.
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Crystal at 09:28AM, Apr 22nd 2009.
Carlos
They aren't saying that God exists.
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Carlos at 02:17PM, Apr 15th 2009.
Jeff
Pete, theres nothing I can say that will have any impact on you other than making you evan more upset. Ive tried to talk about the issue reasonably and not be to condescending but you have obviously taken it personally. Your first post had no indication of you having any knowledge of the Bible, so you cant blame me for not knowing your entire resume. You may be right, maybe there is no God, but by following him and doing what the Bible says Im living a much better life than I would otherwise even if I am wrong. Im not following him because Im afraid of hell, but because it makes my time on earth more meaningful and makes me a better person. Isnt that enough? I would rather face the possibility of being wrong about God and live a fulfilling life that I feel had a purpose than be an athiest who looks back at their life and is dissapointed that thats all there was. Im not saying that every athiest does this, but I believe I would. As for saying I didnt read the book I believe I covered the fact that we cant know anything for certain in an earlier post. Im just turning Dawkins' own logic against him. Finding God was the best thing that could have happened to me. Wether or not you believe that my beliefs are based on reality or are made up doesnt concern me. I think we will just have to agree to disagree. Like I said no hard feelings. Take care
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Jeff at 04:15PM, Feb 28th 2009.
Liz
The ones who do believe in God do it by faith and that is all we basically have. You really can't prove his existence but everyones holdd on to some sort of faith which can manifest into great things which makes us believ that something far greater than us does exist. It's like knowing your mother is your mother. Did you see yourself coming out of her womb? But you have that special relationship and faith that that is what it is which doesn't make you doubt. I wonder if any of you who don't believe in anything would call out for a miracle if they found themselves in an agonizing situation.
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Liz at 03:08PM, Feb 25th 2009.
Pete
Jeff,

Wow. Where should I start..?
Your estimation that I have not read the bible is incredibly far off. It is just about as misinformed as your views on evolution. Why would you assume that I had not read it? I have read the bible; many times. I have also studied both the New and Old Testaments as part of undergraduate coursework. They were separate courses. An entire course devoted specifically to the Old Testament, and an entire course devoted specifically for the New Testament. I have also read the Koran and the Hadith, along with multiple other religious texts. Have you?

I was also raised as a church-going, Protestant Christian. As a teenager, in the church, I was an acolyte and Sunday School teacher. I was in the voice choir and the bell choir. My parents were both on the Church Council- my mother was the President. My entire family was extremely involved in the church. We were at the head of every committee. We had control of literally everything in the church, from the budget, to the daily functions, to selecting a Pastor. It was all controlled by my family, and still is. My father even resigned from a managerial position at a printing plant to become the church custodian/maintenance man when we were unable to find a replacement for one that quit. Since the elementary school that the church ran did not close until 6 o’clock, every night, my Mother would take us kids down to help my Father clean the school. Being that I was in both choirs and an acolyte, I had to attend all 3 services every single Sunday. For about 10 years, I was at church every single day of the week except Saturday, and oftentimes, I ended up there Saturday somehow too.

You should get the point by now, that I have studied the Bible extensively. I suspect I’ve examined it with more veracity than you have. My knowledge of the Bible has been probed and scrutinized by a Ph.D. and has been found sufficient.

Do not assume that because someone that is an Atheist, they have not read the Bible. Your, “If you do want to open your mind to the possibility of Christianity being true I would start by reading the book of John. If nothing else you'll learn what Christians believe and have a better understanding of who we believe God is.” Sounds pretty stupid now, doesn’t it? You will find that most Atheists are far more familiar with the Bible, and especially with other religious books, than Christians are.

I have also read The Case for Christ. I actually have it on DVD. It is LAUGHABLE. Really, it is literally humorous.

Your “holy book”, the Bible, has been through way more edits than I’m sure you’re aware of. The democratic and political fashion in which it was constructed alone is enough to render that text a dead relic of the past, only as useful as any other historical fiction. That its claims are inconsistent, self-contradictory, logically impossible and historically and scientifically inaccurate end up being just little extra reasons to discredit it- that's how bad it is.

To use that mangled text in an attempt to describe a God is to make a mistake.

Also, this “historical validity” in the Bible that you speak of exists only in the imaginations of those who intend to peddle it. It does contain some real places and real dates, but a historically accurate text does not that make. Many works of fiction contain pieces of historically accurate information. King Kong mentions New York City, but that does not mean that a giant gorilla was actually there.

Whether or not the Bible has changed lives for the better has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not it’s true. Many books have changed peoples’ lives for the better, including books of totally different, conflicting, religions. And even if the Bible was the only book that had ever changed anyone’s life, it would still not mean that it’s true. It is easy to understand how something like that could improve someone’s life. The belief that all your troubles will eventually pass and you will spend eternity in bliss can be extremely therapeutic. That feat can be, and is, achieved by many books.

I don’t want accountability for what? I do have accountability, if my actions are too harmful to those around me, my life can be made to be bad; I could even lose it. I stand the risk of losing the only thing that I have; my life. Not only that, my legacy could ruin the lives of other people in this world, including my family. That is huge accountability. It is the Christian view that has no accountability. Under that belief system, you can be a nasty, horrible person your entire life and be rewarded with eternal happiness just for accepting a lord while on your deathbed, so long as you truly mean it. Yeah, that’s great accountability there...

As for your assertion that I am an agnostic: When I said “we don’t know yet”, I was not talking about the Christian god. I was talking about when or how the universe began. It’s true though, I don’t KNOW that the Christian god does not exist. Likewise, I do not KNOW that my parents are not reptiles from the 13th dimension that are here only to harvest all the grapes in the world and sell them to the inhabitants of the 26th dimension so that they can earn enough money to own all the monkeys on Pluto. I can not be CERTAIN about either of those things, but I am 99.9999999% sure that they are not the case, and that is enough for me. Could I be wrong? Sure. But I am not going to plan on it. I am going to live my life as if that story is not true. If you had really read The God Delusion you would know what I am talking about and you would have not said that. Richard Dawkins explains it very clearly on pages 50-51. Maybe you should actually read it, since you are already claiming you have.

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Pete at 12:18PM, Feb 24th 2009.

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