INTERESTING FACT
Darkness is nothing but a absence of light. You can measure intensity of the light to infinity but can you do the same for darkness? Cold is nothing but absence of heat. Heat can be measured to infinity but cold maintains a steady value at a certain degree. Absolute zero (-460 F) is the total absence of heat; and all matter becomes inert and incapable of reaction at that temperature. It was proclaimed that Albert Einstein said: "Evil does not exist, or at least it does not exist unto itself. Evil is simply the absence of God. It is just like darkness and cold, a word that man has created to describe the absence of God. God did not create evil. Evil is the result of what happens when man does not have God's love present in his heart. It's like the cold that comes when there is no heat, or the darkness that comes when there is no light." There is no proof that Einstein said this and there is no proof that he didn't. However, based on constructive thinking there is no reason to suppose that Einstein was part of this "fictive" story.
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To Jeff: you have done a great job, brother. You have been gentle and kind yet straight-forward: your words have been 'seasoned with salt' if you will and i really appreciate it. We should always be like that.
To "faith and believe": you've presented extremely interesting data that i have never heard of I'll have to look into this more... thanks!
PS-i'm pretty sure Einstein never said the quote in the above 'fact' but it does have a good point. It's kind of like the "There's no such thing as barbers" argument. I also think i agree with Koray; i'm beginning to find that a lot of the 'facts' have a subjective element to them. I don't know about you but i came here to hear facts not 'facts'. Anyway, edifying discussion, people. GOD bless each of you in your journey. Peace.
"And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die" (Gen 2:16,17)
the 2nd prohibition was imposed after the Fall and was directed against the second tree, the tree of life.
"And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
Therefore the Lord God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken
So He drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life" (Gen 3:22-24)
Against the two trees the Lord pronounced a prohibition. So here comes the Chinese word "prohibition" consists of "two trees + God pronounced" = "prohibition"
(extracted from The incredible Chinese Script by S H Tow)
Coincident? Why believe in so many coincidences where you can just believe in one thing that everything is created by God?
Human, animals, water, everything on earth even the language that we r using is created by Him and gifted by Him?
I simply just don't believe we are existed by chance.
I hope some of you will find it interesting and believe what I've written here. Amen.
Nevertheless he left not Himself without witness, in that He did good...(Acts14:16,17)
Indeed, our God left not Himself without witness in the days following the Flood and the Babel fiasco, but He did good by implanting in hearts and minds of certain of Noah's children memories of the Creation, the Garden of Eden, the Temptation and Fall, the Flood, and God's plan for salvation.(extracted from The Incredible Chinese Script by S H Tow.)
He indeed not left Himself without witness for the Chinese nation by adding them the gift of the unique Chinese scriptures that carrying essential meaning and story for remembrance. Well, another fact is one in five of mankind is Chinese, with a population of 1.3 billion.( On behalf of all the Chinese, here I would like to thank God for the gift of the Chinese scriptures that we've learned)
Example of Chinese character that relates with the Creation of God is the Chinese word for 'create'
"And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness... And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul"(Gen 1:26; 2:7)The word 'create' in Chinese consists of some simple words or ideogram which is the word of 'dust + mouth + life' also = ' speak + move' that = create.
When God made Adam, He moulded him with the dust of the ground, breathe into his nostrils the breathe of life; and Adam became a living soul, a fully formed adult, able to talk and walk. This is the story of the word 'create'.
There is so many Chinese words that can relate to the story of 'early events' and the more significant ones would be the Chinese word for 'devil', 'tempter', 'desire/covet', 'naked' that tells the story of the Temptation and Fall of Adam and Eve.
Another interesting word that i want to share is the word for 'covet/desire'.
"And... the woman saw that tree was good for food, and... pleasant to the eyes, and... to be desired to make one wise..." (Gen 3:6)
Chinese made no mistake: it was the woman, not the man who lusted and desired the fruit. hence the word for"covet/desire" is made out of ' two trees + woman'.
coincidence? how about this? the word for 'naked' is made out of "body + fruit", is the 'fruit' which Adam and Eve ate that made their 'body' naked! There is no reason to believe that the story of the Creation and the Fall in the bible is not true based on the Chinese scriptures. ( I also couldn't find any reason how the Chinese could create the word for 'naked' with using the word 'fruit' if it isn't based on the story of the Bible.)
Coincidence again? (I don't think so because there are too many words that related to the Bible story.)
Want more? How bout the word of 'righteousness' that is made out of 'lamb' + 'me'. Amazing, how this gospel truth came to be written into the Chinese script over two thousands before the Lamb of God won for us our righteousness at Calvary.
Secondly, the message conveyed from Adam to Noah's Chinese children was well received: God's remedy for sin and prescription for righteousness was a Lamb,not any other animal. ( see Ex 12; Jn 1:29; Rev 5:12) Coincidence? Amazing isn't it? ( I really can't figure out why they use word 'lamb' for the word for 'righteous' as there are so many other animals to choose from but why use lamb if it isn't for the word of God?)
God has spoken: His revealed word is the Bible.
"All scripture is given by the inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness"( 2 Tim 3:16) And while heaven and earth shall pass away, "the word of the Lord endureth for ever"( 1 Peter 1:25)
For those who is unbelief, It's time to wake up, receive the truth that we are all sinner and the truth of the bible and accept Jesus as our personal savior. Global disaster is on the way. The hour is late.
"For ye a little while, and He that shall come will come, and will not tarry"(Heb 10:37)
"Behold, now is acceptable time; behold, now is the day of salvation" (2 Cor 6:2)
What is Jesus to you? Be not as a thief whose faithless railing earned him God's condemnation. But rather consider the other's response of faith. Turn like him to the Man on the Cross and hear Him say: " Today shalt thou be with me in paradise." Amen.
Those which is in Italian word are extracted from 'The Incredible Chinese Script' written by S H Tow.For those who interested to know more bout the words, you are most welcomed to read it.
(In case you are wondering, all the words are based on the ancient Chinese scriptures, not the modern ones!) Well, hope to see you in Heaven!
I personally think that every person here that is trying defend a "higher being" then themselves that doesnt even exist is fighting is going to get NO WHERE! I mean for starters you are in the wrong part of this website i mean come on your in the sciece part of it. Infact i think someone should start a new thread stating all the ways that God or Allah(lol dont forget the muslims :P) exists.
Wake up to the society of today. Most people have moved on from religion and have started to accept the fact that God exists.
"However, based on constructive thinking there is no reason to suppose that Einstein was part of this "fictive" story."
Please read everything first before making statements. We actually said that Einstein was never part of this "absence of God" theory.
I don't understand why and where this god business has to come in. Knowing other quotes from Einstein I highly doubt he put god into that equation.
Either way; it is far from being a fact. Makes me doubt other facts listed on this website.
Comparing god to your mother is highly inaccurate. A mother is tangible and you KNOW her for what she is. She is real, in your face, twist your life, fix your world, reliably there and able to be seen, smelled, tasted, and EXPERIENCED by millions of people all over the world and it is quite hard to debate if there really is a "MOM" out there. GOD on the other hand is claimed to be experienced by individuals with no REAL evidence to prove the experience or exsistence, however, this doesn't mean there is no GOD. But there are people in the world who have not been graced with an experience and choose to disbelieve or like myself, choose to wait and see what happens.
I whole heartedly agree with you about faith being all believers have. That is how GOD does exsists for the time being, on faith alone. Faith creates jihads and such, it is very powerful and enticing. The good thing about GOD is that it is positive for the most part and when faith is truly for the good of others it is a wonderful thing and does create the life that Jeff describes for himself. But for now, that's all that is fact about GOD: Faith. But even so, every thing has a hiccup.
Wow. Where should I start..?
Your estimation that I have not read the bible is incredibly far off. It is just about as misinformed as your views on evolution. Why would you assume that I had not read it? I have read the bible; many times. I have also studied both the New and Old Testaments as part of undergraduate coursework. They were separate courses. An entire course devoted specifically to the Old Testament, and an entire course devoted specifically for the New Testament. I have also read the Koran and the Hadith, along with multiple other religious texts. Have you?
I was also raised as a church-going, Protestant Christian. As a teenager, in the church, I was an acolyte and Sunday School teacher. I was in the voice choir and the bell choir. My parents were both on the Church Council- my mother was the President. My entire family was extremely involved in the church. We were at the head of every committee. We had control of literally everything in the church, from the budget, to the daily functions, to selecting a Pastor. It was all controlled by my family, and still is. My father even resigned from a managerial position at a printing plant to become the church custodian/maintenance man when we were unable to find a replacement for one that quit. Since the elementary school that the church ran did not close until 6 o’clock, every night, my Mother would take us kids down to help my Father clean the school. Being that I was in both choirs and an acolyte, I had to attend all 3 services every single Sunday. For about 10 years, I was at church every single day of the week except Saturday, and oftentimes, I ended up there Saturday somehow too.
You should get the point by now, that I have studied the Bible extensively. I suspect I’ve examined it with more veracity than you have. My knowledge of the Bible has been probed and scrutinized by a Ph.D. and has been found sufficient.
Do not assume that because someone that is an Atheist, they have not read the Bible. Your, “If you do want to open your mind to the possibility of Christianity being true I would start by reading the book of John. If nothing else you'll learn what Christians believe and have a better understanding of who we believe God is.” Sounds pretty stupid now, doesn’t it? You will find that most Atheists are far more familiar with the Bible, and especially with other religious books, than Christians are.
I have also read The Case for Christ. I actually have it on DVD. It is LAUGHABLE. Really, it is literally humorous.
Your “holy book”, the Bible, has been through way more edits than I’m sure you’re aware of. The democratic and political fashion in which it was constructed alone is enough to render that text a dead relic of the past, only as useful as any other historical fiction. That its claims are inconsistent, self-contradictory, logically impossible and historically and scientifically inaccurate end up being just little extra reasons to discredit it- that's how bad it is.
To use that mangled text in an attempt to describe a God is to make a mistake.
Also, this “historical validity” in the Bible that you speak of exists only in the imaginations of those who intend to peddle it. It does contain some real places and real dates, but a historically accurate text does not that make. Many works of fiction contain pieces of historically accurate information. King Kong mentions New York City, but that does not mean that a giant gorilla was actually there.
Whether or not the Bible has changed lives for the better has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not it’s true. Many books have changed peoples’ lives for the better, including books of totally different, conflicting, religions. And even if the Bible was the only book that had ever changed anyone’s life, it would still not mean that it’s true. It is easy to understand how something like that could improve someone’s life. The belief that all your troubles will eventually pass and you will spend eternity in bliss can be extremely therapeutic. That feat can be, and is, achieved by many books.
I don’t want accountability for what? I do have accountability, if my actions are too harmful to those around me, my life can be made to be bad; I could even lose it. I stand the risk of losing the only thing that I have; my life. Not only that, my legacy could ruin the lives of other people in this world, including my family. That is huge accountability. It is the Christian view that has no accountability. Under that belief system, you can be a nasty, horrible person your entire life and be rewarded with eternal happiness just for accepting a lord while on your deathbed, so long as you truly mean it. Yeah, that’s great accountability there...
As for your assertion that I am an agnostic: When I said “we don’t know yet”, I was not talking about the Christian god. I was talking about when or how the universe began. It’s true though, I don’t KNOW that the Christian god does not exist. Likewise, I do not KNOW that my parents are not reptiles from the 13th dimension that are here only to harvest all the grapes in the world and sell them to the inhabitants of the 26th dimension so that they can earn enough money to own all the monkeys on Pluto. I can not be CERTAIN about either of those things, but I am 99.9999999% sure that they are not the case, and that is enough for me. Could I be wrong? Sure. But I am not going to plan on it. I am going to live my life as if that story is not true. If you had really read The God Delusion you would know what I am talking about and you would have not said that. Richard Dawkins explains it very clearly on pages 50-51. Maybe you should actually read it, since you are already claiming you have.